Guitar Tuner Pro Apk Download. Contents • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Map It makes no sense to have a map of the Qing Dynasty on the article about the Qing at a time when the Qing was on the verge of collapse. We don't have the article show a 1943 map with the Western border at, do we? The 1820 map is justified in that it makes the distinction between de facto provinces, directly ruled, and military governances, a distinction not made within western maps at the time, which treated China all as one continuous entity, which is definitely not the case. -- — 22:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC) Thank you Benlisquare for your support. As the map maker I greatly appreciate it.

At the same time, I understand TheLeopard's reasoning, as contemporary maps are indisputable in representing the borders of the time, and angry nationalists on all sides will accuse modern maps of fakery regardless of research. As I compromise, I'd like to put forward this map: since it shows the Qing at its largest extent.

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However, since it was published in the US in 1935, I think it is still under copyright (but I could be wrong). If we can get fair use permission, I think it would be better than the 1892 map. Interestingly, the original host of the map, Huhai, no longer exists, so I wonder if that helps us in any way in procuring the map for this article. I've never petitioned for fair use before, so if anyone can help with going about doing so, it would be greatly appreciated. () 15:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC) There are dozens of suitable maps in.

Here are a few: •. 1910 As one can see, it was pretty common for the 18th-19th century European cartographers to have several maps 'China proper' (i.e. The 15-18 provinces inherited from the Ming) separately from the 'Chinese Tartary' (Mongolia + Manchuria, sometimes also Turkestan), so it's not all that easy to find a map that shows the entire empire on one sheet. This great collection: may be a good resource to find a better map. -- () 17:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC) -- () 17:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC) Thank you Vmenkov for finding these maps!